Great days other than the cold winters. Further information will be posted here shortly, including hotel reservation information and how to register for the reunion. In 1992, the base was dee. I served on board USS HOLLAND AS-32 from 1974 to 1977 I was involved in accident one day Dr. sent me in town for an MRI can anyone one remember the name of base hospital? Thank you for sharing your photos and memories of Holy Loch, a duty station that I coveted but to which I never could receive orders; I came close to going to Edzell, Scotland, during my early career as a CT but went instead to GITMO (68-69). Leslie,No, I don't know the people mentioned above. Dennis Shepard shepardchief49@gmail.com. The number of We may have passed each other in the street sometime and not given each other a look. Great memories!! Thanks for mentioning some of the roles the old tugboats performed.I remember serving as a moving target when you guys in the subs shot torpedoes at us. Holy Family Hall, Rm 205. Here the sons of adversity meet the children of calamity, and here the children of calamity meet the offspring of sin.Herman Melville (18191891), People run away from the name subsidy. After over 44 years I still live here in Dunoon. In 1942, a permanent base was established in Rothesay Bay, which remained until 1957. The area offered deep, sheltered access, and had already seen service during World War II, as a Royal Navy submarine base. In November '75 Canopus was relieved by the USS Holland (AS 32). It seemed at times you could see all four seasons before you walked from one end of the pier to the other. Paul. Also in 1942, a new unit, the Royal Marine Boom Patrol Detachment, sought volunteers for a hazardous mission. Site 1 Holy Loch Reunion. June, 2009 RM 2D758B4 - Strone Pier taken from near the A880 Shore Road, Strone, by Dunoon, Scotland UK. I had me a place in Innellaen so I could get away from the ship now and then. Dino, SKC (SW) (USN) (Retired). Do you know if it is possible to tour the closed facility? I'll never forget sandblasting the barnacles off the hull. Between 1961 and 1982, the Naval Support Activity ashore was administered by US Naval Activities London. I was stationed on The Holland AS32 in HolyLoch fro 1978 to 1981. Would love to go back sometime. You can follow or progress on facebook page Holy Loch Heritage, The American Years Revisited. I usually traveled to Glasgow or Edinburgh, or if I had three days or more, to new places in Scotland, England Ireland and Wales, as well as Continental Europe. During the Black Death of the 14th century, Venice established the first formal system of quarantine, requiring ships to lay at anchor for 40 days before landing. Bucktrout Funeral Home is assisting with services. I want to go back and visit with my family. January 1982, the Holland was relieved by Hunley (for a 2nd tour). was completed by USS Mariano G. Vallejo (SSBN 658). Try good fish & chips, chicken and haggis. I remember the Woolworth store and a little tobacco shop with good candy jars. Site One - the Holy Loch was a significant, if somewhat discreet Cold War location. I miss my shipmates & friends at Site One, Dunoon, Glasgow, and Edinburgh. Crews being sent here were given a handbook containing such gems as "Do not take your guns with you, the Brits do not like guns and you will need a licence for them". Served on the USS George Washington SSBN 598 made 6 patrols out of the Loch.Memories of Dunn and Argyle will remember always.We went in to the dry dock on one up keep. I was born Greennock ,Scotland 1962. Hope to return with my wife this summer to see my Dunoon "KIN" once again. At one point, Dunoon was named as the town with the most taxis per head of population. Visited Anselmo's and talked with the new owner who purchased the business from Anselmo's daughter about 4 years ago. I was there when Proteus came in to the Loch. 05-11-06, 10:32 PM #2 mzook google_ad_format = '120x600_as'; Great memories! Krieger (EN3), Richard,Glad you enjoyed the photos and a bit of memory of the old base.I recall that our tugboat was serviced by the drydock for a quick couple of days between submarines. We used the Simon Lake as a tender. The monument has become a focal point for American personnel who served at the US Submarine Base which was located there for 31 years, until 1992. I served on the drydock (63-66) during which the name was changed from USS-AFDB-7 to USS LOS ALAMOS AFDB-7. Site One Holy Loch Scotland Association Created by William (Bill) Karr ETC(SS) (See other events) May 12, 2011 at 2:00am to May 15, 2011 at . The expansion plans led to the signing this week of a formal agreement which will see the Ministry of Defence, Argyll and Bute Council and other local organisations work together to prepare both navy personnel and the wider community for a major change to life in the area. What a bummer. I was there from zJan 82 to Sept 83 on Hunley. American children received their education in primary schools in Dunoon, Kirn, Sandbank and St Munns, then in Dunoon Grammar School when they were older. Site Paul, thanks for sharing and this story sure has legs!!! Hunley was my first duty station in 87, I reported in Charleston and I was sent to Holyloch onboard the Simon lake as part of the early crew of the supply dept. Thank you. It's a very special place, and I'm grateful for having had the opportunity The Holy Loch name is believed to date from the . Site One was a US submarine refit facility which was located on the southern shore of the Holy Loch for 31 years. We lived in Dunoon and I started school there. - holy loch stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. Fun job. I know im clutching at straws, but I know my sisters are looking for me, we just keep missing each other.If anyone knows of any americans doing this please can u help me. In the 23 years I did in the Navy, the 5 years I did in Holy Loch were the best. Did four refits on boats out of Comsubron 14. - Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser. Paul. Box 2865, Ewa Beach, Hawaii 96706 Holy Loch Known by sailors as the 'Marine gateway to Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park. In Kilmun the 19th century church stands on a site where earlier ones are believed to date to the 6th or 7th Century. Thanks for writing.Paul, Myself and a couple other members of our Holy Loch American Veterans Association living here in Scotland are working with other organisations toward establishing a permanent American Heritage Centre here in the Dunoon area. , p = document.createElement('script'); later the USS Patrick Henry (SSBN 599) arrived, and Proteus commenced the first I WAS ON THE HOLLAND AND THE HUNTLEY, 1980-82. Well I was a junior electrical merchant so I didn't actually do much in the way of Co ordination. I have been trying to track him down for some years, if anyone can help I would be very grateful, my name is jeannie. Four months later the Americans arrived. I just got back from a 2 week UK tour and part of the trip included a journey back to Dunoon/Holy Loch and after 30+ years, it has not changed much, but my perspective about the place certainly has. Paul. My husband was on the uss bluefish that was home in new london ct with frequent trips to this port. You can email me @ wezweeanne@gmail.com if you have any way to help me. Initially HMS Titania was the depot ship alongside which the submarines moored and at the end of 1941 she was replaced by HMS Forth. I re-visited Holy Loch in 1992, it was sad to see the base removed.Best Regards,David (Pod) Podurgiel EN3, David,Glad to hear from you. The first two were moored in the Holy Loch, with the the third lying in the Kyles of Bute, near Rothesay. I have wonderful memories of the people and the place and have been back once. Manage your policy online, file claims for benefits, and access helpful resources. lepers; building or ship for performing quarantine in; after part of ship's hold used for stores.". The pub was "PJ's' that everyone gathered with all the fine Dunoon ladies. From this the word 'quarantine' was derived.". Delightful country!! At Holy Loch Inn, you may order tasty biscuits. In May '70 the Simon Lake was relieved the USS Canopus (AS 34). She taught in the Dunoon schools for 18 months. Thank you. Built during the 1920s, in remembrance of those who fell in World War I, the names of those who have fallen in subsequent conflicts have since been added, together with those lost in incidents in the Holy Loch. From Plank Owners (1963) to the Decommissioning Crew. I did not have any idea that Scotland is so beautiful. Steve Newstrom E Division USS Saratoga CVA-60. The name of the Holy Loch has a number of stories related to its creation, ranging from pre-Christian tales of Sun or Sun-god worship in the area (which has a number standing stones), through Saint Mungo (also known as St Kentigern, patron saint and founder of Glasgow) in the 6th century and the story of a ship being lost in the loch while carry soil from the holy land to be laid under Glasgow Cathedral (Saint Mungo was buried on the site in AD 612), to Saint Munn in the 10th century, who landed there from Ireland. His 'On Crime' column appears in the Washington Times and his 'Crime Beat' column appears here. I didn't know the man. I would not trade those times for anything. In 1961, Dunoon found itself suddenly transformed from a slightly rundown seaside resort to a garrison town. He served aboard the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Comments. . Agreement for the use of Holy Loch was reached near the end of 1960 and the arrival of the first tender, USS Proteus (AS-19) scheduled for December. We've also returned for personal visits in June '72, Dec '92, Negotiations with the British Government began as early as March 1959 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower mentioned the need to British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan at a meeting at Camp David. At this time, my friend Richard and myself decided to form an association so we established the Holy Loch American Veterans Association (HLAVA). We stand ready to provide a lifetime of support to veterans of all generations, their families and their survivors at no cost. Your photos are great and thanks again for your post.D. We watched the "fish" cut through the water, just like they did in the movies. A fictionalised version of the operation was later told in the 1955 film The Cockleshell Heroes, with Trevor Howard, Anthony Newley and Jos Ferrer. google_ad_type = 'text'; All contents including images are copyright by AboutSubs.com google_alternate_color = 'FFFFFF'; Although I'm a city guy, I enjoyed my stay in Tighnabruaich. Their bank stood on what is now the Co-op car park. . Is your father still alive? My brotherinlaw John Patrick Shannon worked in the engine room on the USS Holyloch. Previously classified state documents, which have now been opened and placed in the National Archives at Kew, show the MoD was keen for Americas Scottish-based arsenal to get royal approval. I was a engineman and lived on shore with my wife. I was stationed on the NATIC in Nov of 67 so I may know your husband. Was able to procure the alarm bell out of the Marine Corps Guardshack which we used during security violations. Holy Loch: The Scottish American Connection Kindle Edition by Frank L Gosselin (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 19 ratings See all formats and editions Kindle $5.99 Read with Our Free App Hardcover $40.54 1 Used from $44.80 11 New from $40.54 I served aboard The USS Sam Houston SSBN 609 and did 4 patrols out of Holy Loch (Simon Lake then the tender)1967-1969. Others were Faslane, the channel between Largs and Cumbrae, Rosneath Bay, and Rothesay Bay. In 2005, refurbishment works were carried out at a cost believed to be approaching 40,000. I had so many friends who were American would love to know where they are now, Lester Reed, Courtnay taylor, Julie Ewbanks, Sharlene Flanders, so many. This message board is for former shipmates of CSS-14 who would like to discuss having a reunion or discuss how a recent reunion went . Always a humble man, he leaves behind him a lovely wife, family and a standard that all should strive to attain. Thanks for writing about him. and the Firth of Clyde was one of the Royal Navys major submarine areas. Scotland named cruise destination of the year! She was joined by HMS Alrhada, then by HMS Wolfe, both of which were old passenger ships used to provide additional accommodation. I am trying to find old friends, shipmates that he was with so I can invite them to a surprise 40th wedding anniversary party for he and .my sister, Janet Williams Shannon. All repair parts had to be air lifted in since sub tenders don't carry destroyer parts. Laurel Clark, known to her shipmates as Doc Salton, was assigned as the Radiation Health Officer and Undersea Medical Officer at SUBRON 14. In 1968 we were in the north Atlantic and had a catistrophic breakdown and had to limp into Holy Loch for repairs. To safeguard the entitlements of American veterans, AMVETS provides service such as VA claim filing assistance, employment assistance, advocacy in D.C., & more. Auriette,Thanks for visiting the web site and thanks for writing. Their financial impact on the town was not as great as many people thought. Our members include veterans, spouses, partners, widows and family members and number around 40. Latest Videos on Legion TV. As a student of history, and being Scot-Welsh on my father's side, I enjoyed visiting the many historical sites in Scotland. The Holy Loch name is believed to date from the 6th century, when Saint Munn landed there after leaving Ireland. The loch is still there, of course, but there are no U.S. Navy ships or crafts left.I'd like to return to Holy Loch and Scotland with my wife, who has never been there, and see the loch and the area.Thanks for writing, and thank you for your service as well - as a Navy wife, you also served.Paul, I was afraid that would be the case. Finally, in June '87 the Hunley was relieved by the Simon Lake [for her 2nd Its 2,000 soldiers, with 150 american civilians and 2,000 dependents, have become a fixture in. Thanks for checking in.Paul, I was aboard USS Hunley from July '65 to Aug '67. We watched and waved off the very last ship to leave the holy loch for good it was an experience I am just looking to find out the name of the ship docked around that time of 1989 if you know please, hello Paul my name is Steven Hadley and I served on board the Saugus from 1977 to 79 and I loved it I had a great time. Charlie Witherow, OMC USN(Ret), Chairman H.L.A.V.A. December 30, 2022 at 10:30 a.m. at . Kilmun Parish Church and Argyll Mausoleum is said to stand where Saint Munn's church was once located. Support Activity. You can go to http://thistlegroup.net/ and perhaps make some contacts there.Thanks for writing.Paul. Went back to Scotland for the first time this past summer both the people in Gourock and Dunoon were absolutely the best, brought back many memories. Lot of good memories about Danoon and Glasgow was a plank owner on Hunley left as an EM 2, Al,Thanks for writing and thanks for your service.Paul, Mike, I think I served with you on the Natick. Linda,You should be proud of your father's service. I Thank God that I got to see the Ferguson homeland. All Rights Reserved. Holy Loch was by far the best duty in my short career (4 years). Holy Loch is a former submarine base situated in SW Scotland Holy Loch Mouth of Holy Loch Introduction The Holy Loch is a sea loch, a part of the Cowal peninsula coast of the Firth of Clyde, in S.W. Needless to say, I loved it there. Specialties: American Veterans Care Association's goals are to create and promote a supportive system of care long denied to American and Native American Veterans after their absence in civilian life due to the demands of having served under the United States Armed Forces. Don't forget Berts. I then rented a flat in Glasgow, where I too took the ferry from Gourock to Dunoon and the navy base. The 1943 film We Dive at Dawn, starring John Mills, was filmed in the area, including scenes shot at a number of sites including HMS Forth and and Ardnadam Pier. I enjoyed Scotland and travelled back to Holy Loch and Dunoon in 2000 with my family. No automated processing by advertising systems is permitted. I agree, Site One played a key role in the Cold war.And yes, like you, I'm proud of my service at Site One on the Saugus.Thanks for writing.Paul, Yes I was on board three submarines that ran out of holy loch. So many fond memories of the Scottish people, they are amazing. In the autumn of 1959 the US Believe it or not I was stationed on the NATICK (YTB 760) between July of 1974 thru Dec of 1975. The base, called "Site One," consisted of the USS. I will never forget the kindness that he and his family showed me in my time of need. Nominations were considered by a panel of industry executives, Seatrade Insider's global editorial team, cruise consultants, analysts and association experts from around the world. I am very glad I made my way back because it is just a fantastic little piece of heaven on earth that I never saw during my earlier times there. Join Navy Veterans. a delightful country. The Holy Loch (Scottish Gaelic: An Loch Sianta/Seunta) is a sea loch, a part of the Cowal peninsula coast of the Firth of Clyde, in Argyll and Bute, Scotland.. Distance: 3.3 mi. I was really too young to truly appreciate the history of Dunoon, but I spent many a weekend in Edinburough & Glascow. Bought an engagement ring from a shop in Edinburgh. If you would like more information about the National Association of American Veterans, Inc. and the services we provide, please use the contact Form and Information below. The submarines received supplies,maintenance andrepairs at the floating Navy base. p.async = 'async'; Jesse,Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. Simon Lake was there. USS George C. Marshall (SSBN-654), a Benjamin Franklin-class ballistic missile submarine, was the only ship of the United States Navy to be named for General of the Army George C. Marshall (1880-1959), who served as U.S. Secretary of State from 1947 to 1949 and as U.S. Secretary of Defense from 1950 to 1951. Stephen,Yes, Scotland was, and remains, I'm sure. From 1961--1992, it was used as a US Polaris nuclear submarine base. In 1992, the base was deemed unnecessary following the demise of the Soviet Union and withdrawn. I was outside the EM club in 1975 when I heard an unmistakable South Philly accent. I will always remember how polite the people were there and I miss being there at times. Strange to see no evidence of a sub base. Plans were drawn up for the Royal matriarch to inspect the US nuclear fleet at the Holy Loch in Argyll at the height of the Cold War. This place is well known for its great service and friendly staff, that is . Rumours circulated that the Depot Ship had to be moved because she was moored on top of a mountain of discarded beer cans! The helping hand that AMVETS extends takes many forms: The families and supporters that stand behind our AMVETS members play a vital role in the growth and preservation of our organization. aboard the USS Proteus. After a stint with the Mobile Riverine Force in Vietnam, I was transferred to the Simon Lake in 69, as the Simon Lake rotated out I transferred to the Canopus. The body of water was so named because sometime in the Middle Ages, a merchantman carrying a cargo of sand from the Holy Land sank in its cold, dark waters. assembled in six months. The US Navy had originally planned for Proteus to arrive on March 4. HOME. I nicked named Scotland land of the liquid sunshine. on the Hunley AS31 in 1987, our bestman crossdecked to the Simon Lake and years later we ended up on the John.S.McCain in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, who do we run into walking down the street, but our bestman lol small world. I've tried fish & chips here and there since my Scotland tour, but they have not been the same.Anonymous, I too miss Scotland and it was a fine place to be stationed, even if the winter weather was awful.I miss the place, the people, and I even miss the Navy (Ha).Paul. In 1975 our tugboat spent three days on the drydock, but we had to do our own work. I was. 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